13 thoughts on “Norton East Railway Junction 1960

  1. The loop line on the east-west line at Norton Junction was indeed used for storage of seasonal passenger stock C1961. By this time almost all regular local services were diesel multiple units. I remember one rake of stock stored here being extensively vandalised at around this time. The Norton triangle was also frequently used for turning large locomotives working into the Stockton area, which were too long for the existing turntable at Stockton sheds.

  2. Bill good to hear from you, long time since I saw your name on the site. The line from the west to east was used in much the same manner that the loops between Billingham and Norton station were used, and was really just a shunt line. In the early sixties it was used a lot to store excursion stock especially for saturday traffic. It was indeed, as you say, a no block line – in fact just a general shunting loop when the x overs were in at the east and west they were used quite a bit to run round trains.

  3. Thank you David, your photo has answered a question that have been searching for! Yes the line is that from Norton West to Norton East, but the thing that has been answered is the line behind the train this being the independent. Before leaving the railway I obtained two train register books for Norton West dated 1961/2 and recorded in them was trains goning onto this line but nothing showing of them coming off or out of section, may be Gordon Armes may have some info with regard to this line – I think it must have been a no block line.

  4. The Q6 is on the ‘back line’ between Norton West & Norton East Junction – Ozzy (Hawes) Wood is just visible on the right & the remaining buildings of Norton Junction Station are just visible in the left background. The line is still in existance and has been used in recent weeks for pipe traffic between Seaton & Scotland.

  5. You are quite right Alan B, the picture was taken on the ‘back line’ between Norton West and Norton East. Junction Road lies parallel to the track on the photographer’s left and what we called Ossie’s woods to the right. The train is about to join the main line heading towards Norton Station, at the junction controlled by Norton East. The house visible in the distance at the end of the train was, in Victorian times, the Railway Inspector’s Residence; now a listed building and privately owned. Some further details and photos are in Steam Days Magazine April 2010.

  6. Alan B. Interesting about Mr Penny and Mr Farthing at Summerville, our friends were Norman Nichol and his wife Auntie Mag, all we need to make a coin set, would be Mr Gold and Mr Silver, full house for the wages department of ICI. Auntie Mag (nee Holiday) was Fred Kidd’s wife Ethels sister, so now you see what a small world it is Alan. The Holiday family were born at Wolsingham I think they were all girls. One became Matron of St Thomas’s hospital London. Those were the days of coffee at Ralph Spark’s cafe and Mathias Robinson’s shop which looked very sad the last time I saw it about two years ago. When I went to work there in the 1940′ after leaving Fred Kidd’s, Mr Cyril Robinson introduced me to the London trained shop Manager, Mr (Ding Dong) Bell. Cyril Robinson was very proud of that, as he was of his fathers shop. They started at West Hartlepool like Marks and Spencer’ did in Leeds in a very small way, the Leeds shop was Robinson’s pride and joy. Debenhams bought the whole firm out. So ended a very fine local firm. When you look around there is not much left of old industry or firms, God help us if we are stupid enough to go into another war, because we have nothing left to defend ourselves with. It is all owned by foreign firms like Corus, even some water works like Northumberland water was owned by the French, but I have lost touch now, you do not know who owns what any more.

  7. Its hard for me to visualise this location after so many years of change and being away.
    I was influenced by the third track, the buildings and simple signal set top left, which suggested Norton West on the horizon. I would have expected to maybe see some housing, the bridge and the triple signal set at Norton Station on the horizon if stood the other way round, but possibly the photographer can confirm the train direction. My dad remembers the huts at ICI Summerville Farm. This site did indeed house the companies Wages Dept during the war. Ironically it was staffed by two managers, Mr Penny and Mr Farthing.

  8. I think you may be wrong here Alan, this section of track has the correct width of trackside verge to be where we had our allotment. If I am correct, this width only occured going from Norton Station up to Norton Junction curve following on to Stockton Station, staight on went to Redmarshall. So I think you are facing the wrong way. Surely Seaton Carew is on the East Coast so why call that top cabin Norton West?

  9. Yes, its the Steetley working – notice the covered hopper wagons (COVHOPs) to keep the dust down from the powdered dolime from the quarries where the wagons had been loaded. On arrival at the Magnesite works the wagons were shunted by the company’s diesel shunter, a Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0. I used to cycle over to see this machine in action, as I’d never seen a diesel before!!

  10. My mother (Doris Arnold) worked Norton East as a signaller with the LNER during the war, leaving in 1946 as demobilised men came home needing work. She would often tease one of my uncles, who worked Norton South after he came home from the navy in ’46, for doing “women’s work”.

  11. Alan B, was it ICI Wages Department at Summerville during the war? Did you by any chance know Norman Nichol of wages Dept? they were good friends of ours.

  12. Photos of trains on the east-west line at Norton Junction seem fairly rare, though there is one other in the railway section of this site. Looks like Q6 63412? of 51C West Hartlepool shed on a Thrislington (Ferryhill) to Steetley Magnesite (West Hartlepool) limestone working. This was a long established working and the Steetley Works only finally closed C2003-4. The engine built in 1919 was withdrawn in 1966 for scrapping.

  13. An excellent photo. As I remember it, must be the back line from Norton West to East Junction with Bell’s Siding on the right, all now changed forever with the new housing. These were sensitive railway junctions during the war. My dad was frequently asked for identification by the police on the road through the junctions during the war. He had to make numerous trips from ICI Norton Hall to ICI Summerville Farm and return.

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